Shane wrote:
Thank for helping him Sean, sorry that I gave bad advice , I don't really understand maxillary issues obviously.....


shane, All you are doing is trying to help. Everyone on here is trying to help. But there are a lot of misconceptions and wrong information also floating around. There are also a lot of good information floating around and it is hard to distinguish the good from the bad. MANY OF US, BUT NOT ALL, might have had some kind of problem before our surgeries. Sometimes our problems before surgery also mix in with problems after the surgery then everything becomes really bad. MOST PEOPLE, NOT ALL, had a reason to go to the ENT. while I agree there are some bad ENT's out there. Not all are bad. My own ENT put me on medication, I was on three rounds of antibiotics, nasal irrigation, steroids, which did not help. After taking a CT scan, it became apparent that there WAS NO OTHER WAY BUT SURGERY. I even asked Dr. Grossan if the surgery was necessary (I had really bad sinuses and polyps). Dr. Grossan said the surgery was necessary. I used to get sick 4 to 5 times a year. for about a year or two years before my surgery I started getting more and more sinus infections after each time I got sick. I would take antibiotics and feel better. But it never got to the cause of my real problem, which were my sinuses. My sinuses are still bad, and I believe they've always been bad, But have just gotten worse over time. I never had congestion when I was younger but I remember I would carry kleenex everywhere, since my nose ran all the time. It seems I did have some kind of inflammation that is still unknown why. Before the inflammation would be limited to my sinuses and I would just get sick. I rarely had nasal congestion except when I was sick. I also remember when I would get sinus infection, My sinuses would dry up.

But now that my sinuses are open to drain, they seem to keep draining into my nose and turbinates, creating irritation and making my nose congested 24/7 EVERYDAY. Now I have constant post nasal drip. most of my symptoms are on my right side, the side that was really bad before my surgery. So it is only natural to have have bad sinuses even after surgery. All surgery did for me is open up my sinuses to drain them. Now I don't get sick anymore, but I feel congestion and bad postnasal drip every second, plus neck pain etc. Now I constantly feel sick!!

I think If I didn't have surgery my sinuses would have started going into my eyes, it was completely full. I just had bad sinuses from the beginning and they kept getting worse, because I had symptoms that didn't bother me for me to get it treated. I always thought it was normal for me to have a runny nose. I would also sneeze a lot, but i just thought it was something minor. It wasn't until the last few years before my surgery that I started getting sinus infection after sinus infection and ultimately leading to something really bad that I needed surgery.

In a way it was no-ones fault. This was How I was born.

It just bothers me that some doctors do not have the skills to do conservative surgery. Or some lack the knowledge of side effects including ENS. For many doctors, it is the lack of awareness, not the greed of money that makes people like us suffer.

Dr. Grossan believes, conservative surgery done through coblation and submucosal resecation. CAN actually help people. In his practice he hasn't had ANY complaints. But his group is a very highly trained group of doctors who know what they are doing and are all well aware of ENS.

Dr. Dale Rice, is well known, but I have also seen that he is a two faced person when it comes to ENS. Maybe he just doesn't understand it as well as houser and grossan.

I have been to Dr. Dale Rice a couple of Times, and asked him if he does coblation. He said that he used to but he doesn't anymore. he said because submucosal resection using microdebrider is much more predictable in the long run, and coblation is less predictable. I'm sure if he was all about the money, he would do coblation. Since it takes much less time, and less skill and the surgeon is paid the same amount.

In my opinion there are just some cases that truly need surgery. This doesn't mean they have to touch your turbinates. But sometimes sinus surgery is needed, including my case. After about 2.5 years after my surgery, my sinuses are pretty much the same. I still have dryness. I did have dryness before surgery. I looked at my reports when I went to my ENT BEFORE SURGERY AND ON THE VISIT REPORTS IN ONE OF MY VISITS I HAD MENTIONED I HAD DRYNESS. But I totally forgot about it. Now that I think long and hard, I did have dryness, But they don't know why. No-one including Dr. Grossan could figure out the cause or solution to my problems.


One everyone on this forum has to realize is that ENS was only defined 20 years ago. and Until it gets into the mainstream ENT community and Doctors, It will take more time.

It is the responsibility of the Entire ENS community to facilitate the awareness. People here talk about coping and doing this and that. But until the entire medical community and ENT community is completely aware of this situation, this will keep on happening.

You cannot wait around for a cure of something that people don't know exists. THERE ARE ABOUT 2000 MEMBERS ON THIS FORUM AND ONLY A HANDFUL OF ACTIVE MEMBERS. IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT A CURE THEY NEED TO BECOME ACTIVE AND INCREASE AWARENESS, BY WRITING LETTERS, MAKING YOUTUBE VIDEOS. SIGNING PETITIONS. BUT ALL I'VE SEEN FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION.

IF PEOPLE, ENT'S DOCTORS, NURSES, ETC DON'T KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM, THERE WILL NEVER BE A SOLUTION, SO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS NEEDS TO BE ACTIVE AND THERE WILL BE A CURE.

IF YOU DON'T ACT ON IT, THEN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WILL DISMISS THIS PROBLEM AND SOMETHING MINOR THAT DOESN'T BOTHER PEOPLE ENOUGH TO START A MOVEMENT.